ReNaeNae 2010-05-03 23:57:23

If he hadn't locked it, I would have. Feel free to add me to your list of 'mods to hate' :)

BlackmarketKraig 2010-05-04 00:09:12

Hey Jereminion.

If you have a problem with the way I operate you can take it up with Wade.

I don't think your little call to action is really going to do much but stir up some negative attention for you.

Just a friendly suggestion. =]

Malachy 2010-05-04 00:27:30

I said you can PM me if you want.

Reading over the thread you linked, I agree with renaenae and BMK, the thread you made in the art forum was not a showcase of your own art or even a fun art practice thread like the create a weapon thread you cited. You wanted somebody else to do work for you, and they already have an established thread for requesting art from other artists.

Malachy 2010-05-04 01:29:12

Jamoke wasn't demodded because of something he did to you in 2009. He moved on in February. Real life sometimes does that to you. I think he's going back to school or something.

Your thread was not following the rules of the art forum. The art forum is there so that artists can show off their artwork in threads. You created a thread to ask for somebody else to make art for you and yes, you did post screen shots of your game in progress, but the intent of your thread was a request, which belongs in the aptly named request thread.

The thread you are holding to as the same thing is not the same thing. It was not a request for material the OP could use in his own flash, it was a themed thread for creating art, which is far removed from requesting source material for flash development.

BMK was not abusive or rude to you in any way. He posted very plainly that if you are requesting art for your game, that there is already a thread available for you to do so. All you had to do was click the link he provided and post the same information you opened your thread with. Not only is that thread the correct place to post, but people who are going to be willing to fulfill a request will be checking in on that thread and may not necessarily be looking at new threads in the art forum because as I said before, new threads in the art forum are for artists to showcase their work. So of course your thread won't get the attention of somebody hoping to fill your request because they probably figured your thread was a showcase of some boss battles you created and not an invitation for somebody to create something for your game.

Malachy 2010-05-04 02:28:22

no no, I don't think you understand that the art forum isn't there for flash development. it is there for artists to learn and grow as artists. They have a specific thread for requesting art. Your thread was a request for art for your game, yes? If so, it would belong in the request thread because that's where people who will fulfill your request will be checking out.

read a few threads in the art forum, check out the art forum rules: <a href="http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/rules_art">http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/rules_a rt</a> . The description for the forum reads "Share your original artwork with your fellow artists! Large images can be uploaded in this forum." the forum is there for sharing, not development.

As a nod to the many flash artists or non-artsy folk who may want something made for them, they have allowed a request thread. They ask that you offer a monetary incentive because otherwise there wouldn't be anything worthwhile for the artist to basically produce something for you. It's a lot like going to a carpenter and asking him to build you a table. For some people in the Art Forum and Art Portal, art is their job and source of income. Some of them are professional artists.

your best bet is to make a blog post stating exactly what you want. If you can't pay somebody to create the art, you can link to the blog post in your forum signature with a message like "I need some help with boss battle artwork, click here if interested".

The forum rules ask that you lurk around a specific forum before posting new threads in it so that you get an idea of the culture of that forum. By the responses to your thread in the art forum, it looks like you didn't really do that and unfortunately you got a cold reception. But that is the risk you take when you don't follow the advice of the rules. I think you simply misjudged what was/was not appropriate for that particular forum. BMK was trying to be helpful by pointing you in the right direction for a request.

in regards to not liking how the place is run, there are plenty of messages to the tune of "if you don't agree with the terms of service of this website, do not create an account". Newgrounds is a privately owned company and to use our services you agree to abide by our rules and terms of service. By creating an account or posting on the forums you are making a legal agreement with us that for our services you will abide by the rules we ask you to. You are not compelled to use the forums or services of the website.

I assume you feel entitled by a misunderstanding of the first amendment? That amendment does not mean you can say and do whatever you want wherever you want with no repercussions, it simply means that you can, in your own capacity, say what you want without the GOVERNMENT stopping you. If you choose to use another person's service to say what you want, you need to follow their rules, because you are using THEIR OUTLET to express your opinions rather than your own outlet.

36Holla 2010-05-04 04:49:42

The first two spoken lines in this flash is basically the best way to describe this situation.

<a href="http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/387969">http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view /387969</a>

TurkeyOnAStick 2010-05-04 13:32:28

Abusing power? Neo-nazi headquarters?

Since you thought everybody in that thread that went against you was a troll, you're not worth the effort to preach to.

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This is for the guys looking for an explanation:
I, too, would have deleted that thread.

That's because the art forum mods know more about how the art forum works than Jereminion does. Even before mod intervention, the users TOLD you that you were in the wrong.

There's not an ounce of mod favoritism in this comment.

He compares it to "Design a Weapon Thread", which is a thread made intended for fun.
His thread is a cheap-ass way of getting people to do his design-work for him. For free.

Redirect to Art Request Thread; and nobody works for free. End of problem.

Also Malachy did the textbook 3 day of people complaining about a forum ban.

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In short:
READ THE FORUM RULES

Occluded 2010-05-04 13:47:19

Well, you got the attention you wanted. But now, because you're unreasonable, everyone thinks you're an idiot. Instead of a few who might have quietly forgotten. Dude if everyone thinks you're wrong. You have to open yourself up to the possibility that you ARE wrong.

Ashman 2010-05-04 14:28:50

if i wasnt banned i woulda so ripped fuck out of you in that thread, i mean come on your work was terrible 5 minute stuff that shoulda never been posted in the first place

J-qb 2010-05-04 14:53:41

I dont know what you are on about but somewhere you said the "low-level mods stick together because the users don`t like them".
Let me tell you something you might not know about the art portal (seeing as how you were oblivious to other things about the art forum). The art forum mods are generally appreciated greatly by the art forum regulars. This might not be the case in general or flash or whereever; it is in the art forum. So maybe, just maybe, you can put some effort into trying to understand the rules and "culture" of a certain forum before you walz in and ask poeple to do stuff for you. If you stop making newsposts about "abusive" mods you could save up some nice time for that. Its a win-win situation.

also: another major difference between the design a weapon thread and yours was that the art you posted in you thread sucked. If dommi-fresh were to draw my design, id be flattered; if you did, Id propably feel offended rather than flattered.

One last thing: You are probably gonna write some witty comment about me kissing mods asses and trying to become a mod myself; im not. I appreciate the mods and I appreciate the work they do.

Kashi 2010-05-09 23:23:36

now you have made yourself look like and idiot and a very fail-tastic troll

and btw, ive talked to BMK and Renaenae, and they are much better people than you could ever be. and if you think im "sucking up" or any bullshit you wanna call me, then how about you get your ass on stickam one day and see what everyone else thinks about them.

just because you have no personality and cant draw, you decide to pull a huge shit fit and waste all of our time.
so get your ass of newgrounds.
and maybe take some lessons in art.
and in life.
and maybe see a psychiatrist. cause u got some issues.

The-Worsley-Bear 2010-05-10 08:38:42

lol, you're a funny guy

Fifty-50 2010-05-13 08:50:10

Hmmmm.. Let me get this straight, your want to get a mod demoted just because he locked one of your threads? The way I look at it, your looking like you overreacted to the perfectly reasonable lock that the mods did. And also, if you didn't want the way the NG BBS operated well you should have just went away quietly without causing any outrage. You think that your the one who's right and I respect that, but I think your going a little bit overboard

Newgrounds isn't made for you or me or any other person, it's for everyone. So don't destroy the fun that everyone was having just so you can say thatone of the mods locked your thread. I'm not trolling you, I'm giving you advice. It's up to you if you accept it.

I mean I had a couple of threads locked myself. That was because I didn't read the rules and just went on posting. :D

The-Great-One 2010-05-22 23:19:12

Yeah, good luck with taking a less than serious problem way too serious. If you have a gripe about the moderators take it up with Wade. He's the one who hands out the moderator status around here.

Just title it "Abusive Moderator" and I'm sure he'll get back to you in no time.

joeyjoah 2011-08-26 02:51:35

lol fag